Great tips! Writing a betrayal into my current WIP, so this is very helpful. Without giving away the characters involved, etc. what books & movies (beyond the more historical examples listed above) might you suggest for those of us looking to explore betrayals in modern literature or film?
I guess most folk have made their comments on Youtube maybe, so sorry if I'm repeating. You're totally right, though, the mediums are totally different. When a novel is made, it's hoped that the agent and/or editor has little, if any, impact. With a film, oh Lord... you have a writer who converts the book to a script, a director who has their vision of how it looks, producers who have their budgets and whims, marketing execs who'll tell you more about what's 'in' and what's 'out'...
To summarise; again, you're right. If people expect the film to be like the original material, they're sadly (yet perhaps understandably) deluded. There are so many factors at play in the conversion that things are almost always changed BUT that doesn't mean to say there aren't plenty of fantastic adaptations.
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005) was an adaptation of a book I liked. I know a lot of people didn't, but I guess when you're a big fan, sometimes you just respect the effort someone else has made, even if it does challenge your perception of the original work.
You never ever need to apologize for commenting! Some people comment here, some on YouTube. I don't have a preference. :)
As far as a novel goes, I wouldn't say that it's hoped that the agent and/or editor has little to no impact—in fact, I'd hope that they do have an impact in that they help make the book even stronger than it was. The great thing about (traditional) publishing is it's a collaborative effort—agents, editors, copyeditors, etc. all work together with the author to try to make the best book possible, which I personally think is pretty wonderful.
At any rate, I agree that there are definitely some fantastic adaptations out there. Though even ones that are considered good adaptations tend to be divisive as far as the fans go. :)
Great tips! Writing a betrayal into my current WIP, so this is very helpful.
ReplyDeleteWithout giving away the characters involved, etc. what books & movies (beyond the more historical examples listed above) might you suggest for those of us looking to explore betrayals in modern literature or film?
Thanks, J. Lynn! As for good examples of good betrayals...hmmm.
ReplyDelete(For everyone else these are a teensie bit spoilery so don't look okay? Okay).
For film:
THOR movies.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Lord of the Rings (quite a few examples in there)
The Matrix
The Social Network
For books:
TEN by Gretchen McNeil
ACROSS THE UNIVERSE by Beth Revis
SHADOW AND BONE by Leigh Bardugo
HALF BAD by Sally Green
DIVERGENT series by Veronica Roth
These are just a couple examples of course, but I hope it helps! :)
I guess most folk have made their comments on Youtube maybe, so sorry if I'm repeating. You're totally right, though, the mediums are totally different. When a novel is made, it's hoped that the agent and/or editor has little, if any, impact. With a film, oh Lord... you have a writer who converts the book to a script, a director who has their vision of how it looks, producers who have their budgets and whims, marketing execs who'll tell you more about what's 'in' and what's 'out'...
ReplyDeleteTo summarise; again, you're right. If people expect the film to be like the original material, they're sadly (yet perhaps understandably) deluded. There are so many factors at play in the conversion that things are almost always changed BUT that doesn't mean to say there aren't plenty of fantastic adaptations.
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (2005) was an adaptation of a book I liked. I know a lot of people didn't, but I guess when you're a big fan, sometimes you just respect the effort someone else has made, even if it does challenge your perception of the original work.
You never ever need to apologize for commenting! Some people comment here, some on YouTube. I don't have a preference. :)
ReplyDeleteAs far as a novel goes, I wouldn't say that it's hoped that the agent and/or editor has little to no impact—in fact, I'd hope that they do have an impact in that they help make the book even stronger than it was. The great thing about (traditional) publishing is it's a collaborative effort—agents, editors, copyeditors, etc. all work together with the author to try to make the best book possible, which I personally think is pretty wonderful.
At any rate, I agree that there are definitely some fantastic adaptations out there. Though even ones that are considered good adaptations tend to be divisive as far as the fans go. :)